Predawn Profile – Brodie Wise

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You can meet a phenomenal array of fellow runners through social media.  One such runner who struck me right away as someone I have a lot in common with was Brodie Wise, a Baltimore resident who you can find on dailymile or Twitter.  We’ve had similar timelines in our running “careers”, similar family situations, and this similar habit of not sleeping enough – plus have both experienced the hurdle of overcoming injury (though Brodie’s challenges have been admittedly greater than my own).  In a lot of way’s Brodie’s story is a bit contrarian to current trends in running, so I hope you enjoy this different perspective.

Predawn Runner: When and how did you start to get involved with running?

Brodie Wise: Growing up I was a sprinter in school, didn’t do anything major during track so I tried other sports.  While in college and beyond I kept running (shorter distances), then the change happened!  While living in Baltimore (1998), my old neighbor told me she ran marathons.  As most people who are not runners react…”WHAT?”  I thought that was plain crazy.  Well, she invited me to go on runs and it made me start increasing my mileage.  Then one day I tried to run a 10-mile run…. There is nothing like running longer distances for the first time and not knowing what you should and shouldn’t do.  Who doesn’t like blisters and dehydration?  Either way, I became a runner for life.

PR: It looks like you were involved with running some time ago and then gave it up for a bit – at least racing. Why is that, and what got you motivated to start again?

BW: You got that right; I gave up running races because I didn’t like the planning for the race.  Most people need a schedule, I just like to knock some miles out and enjoy the run.  Too many people focus on a schedule and miss the “pure” enjoyment of the run.  I ran my first marathon in 2001 (Baltimore), after that race I said never again.  Absolutely hated the aftermath and didn’t understand why people put themselves through the pain.  As time passed, I did try to train for a few others but early in the schedule I got hurt and didn’t like the pressure.  Guess what happened; no more races.  Well, some friends asked me to run a half-marathon in 2009.    At that race I ran into and old friend of mine Thomas Neuberger who first bantered me that he couldn’t believe I could run that fast with my huge feet:)   Thomas put the pressure on me to run a few races with him and sign up of a marathon.  Since I had a great base of miles, running a marathon wasn’t a big deal and I never had the issues I had in the past.

PR: You’ve run a couple of BQ marathons now, correct? What type of training approach did you take?

BW: Actually, I only ran one.  I finally had the honor of running the 2010 Boston.  Leading up to Boston I treated the race like any other.  I focus on 4-5 runs a week averaging 6 to 10 miles a run, inserting a 20-miler every other weekend.  Approximately 3 weeks before the race I start scaling back the mileage for the long runs.  Since I ran a 50k the month before, I didn’t need a lot of prep for this race.  I admit, I don’t do a lot of tempo and/or speed work, I focus on miles.  There is nothing like running Boston, it was an amazing experience! 

PR: I know you have struggled through some injuries of late, what have you learned in the process and how have you been able to stay focused on your fitness?

BW: This was a metaphor for life, learn from your mistakes. With everything you need balance and after getting a hernia in 2010 and chronic shin issues due to shoes, I took a year and half to recover (continued to run).  I kept my patience and used cycling swimming, etc to keep my fitness up when I wasn’t able to run.

PR: Small world – I had a hernia in early 2010 too, but fortunately the repair was quick, easy, and hopefully permanent.  I’m curious as to what adjustments you made to your shoes – can you share a bit about that?  Anything else you had to change to overcome injuries?

BW:  I can’t say I have much change to my approach to running except I pay attention more to the signs of potential issues.  For example, slight pains in my legs or abdomen can become more serious so I shift my training to other exercises when possible.  Since my hernia was running induced, I try to do more sit ups and core exercises to strengthen the area. The shoe/orthotics element was a disaster waiting to happen.  I changed podiatrists and he stated I could use over the counter ortho’s and could run in less structured shoes.  Little did I know that I needed so much more. First I went back to my original podiatrist, second he fitted me for custom orthotics and third he put me in a shoe that has a straight last (curve on the bottom of the shoe) to help support my arches while running.  Since I was on the verge of a stress fracture and had to take quick action and stop most running. And now, no VFF’s for me, only over-weighted shoes that support my orthotics and my arches.

PR: Maybe you should write a book – there are a lot of runners who can gain from your experience. With three boys, how do you find time to fit in your training?

BW: I have 3 amazing boys 7, 4 and 2.  Time, what is that?  Oh, I gave up on sleep a while ago to fit my runs in.  Truth be told, having an incredible supportive wife makes all the difference I the world.  When I can’t get up she allows me to get a run in and continue my training.    I can tell, as my kids get older, there will be no running during the day.  Isn’t this blog called “pre-dawn”?

PR: It is indeed, and precisely for the same reason you mention.   And I can’t agree more about the importance of a supportive spouse. Now that you’ve gone beyond Boston, what are some of your longer-term goals?

BW: To be fair, I don’t set many goals for running.  I have a zen-like attitude and I just like getting out there.  I do want to run a 100-mile race someday, I think that will be a focus for 2013.  I could twist this question, I feel there so many other people want me to set a goal so I think I will have to put out a poll so I know what to shoot for.

PR: Well I for one think that goals are highly personal, so it’d be tough for me to believe that picking one as the result of a poll would be highly motivating – so we’ll just go with your 100-mile race, shall we?

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  • http://www.strengthrunning.com Jason Fitzgerald

    Lots of good lessons here, thanks for sharing Brodie. The importance of finding what works for you personally is huge – glad you’re thriving off that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1477357128 Brian Adkins

    Great interview with Brodie.  He’s a very unique person: a soulful runner, dedicated father and spouse, and a positive ambassador for everyday living.

  • http://twitter.com/patterbt Brad Patterson

    Very good interview, Greg & Brodie. I was especially interested in Brody’s comments about just running for the pure enjoyment of it. I have similar thoughts and don’t find myself “needing” (or necessarily even wanting) a race in order to stay motivated to train. Not saying I’m never going to race, just that I run right now solely for the love of the experience and activity itself.