Shoe Review – Mizuno Wave Rider 13

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I’m not an expert when it comes to running shoes.  I do think it is valuable when considering shoe options to get the opinions of the everyday Joe’s (or Greg’s) who have experience with a specific model and can speak to their joys and concerns.  Thus, I do plan to write up some non-technical reviews of a few of the shoes I have experienced, but I will only do so when there is enough mileage and range of workouts on them to form good opinions.

As I detail in a post on Runblogger regarding my shoe selection process, I was looking for some options to replace my Nike Air Max Moto’s.  They are good shoes, but I felt I could get something lighter, and they had done some damage to my pinky toenails at the Cleveland Marathon (irreparable damage, in fact – but frankly my pinky toes have long been a lost cause – a story for another time, perhaps).  Since the Moto’s are already a pretty neutral shoe, though definitely with more support than others in the category, the logical step in seeking something lighter is to find a shoe with less cushioning.

After trying on the Mizuno Wave Rider 13, ASICS DS Trainer 15, and Brooks Ghost 3, I decided that the Mizuno’s were worth a try, with the Ghosts as the backup, more cushioned option.  My preliminary observations, after 30 miles, were included in the post on Runblogger, but to summarize:

  • There is a notable increase in your ability to “feel” the road. In fact, you almost feel like you are gripping it on each stride (and that may be due to the flexibility that the Riders are known for).
  • My legs were more sore from these shoes – initially in the shins, but later in the hamstrings.  This may be related to the first point, but was my biggest concern early in my experiments with these shoes.

Now, with 240 miles on the shoes, it’s a better time to make a fair judgment.  But yet, I still have some uncertainties about them.  First the positives:

  • I have found that not only do I need a wide show, I specifically need a shoe with a large toe box – both “laterally” (across the toes) and, well, whatever you call the “up and down” direction.  My toes splay and curl up, and many shoes (including, regrettably, the Brooks Ghost 3’s that I did eventually try) create issues with toenails bruising.  That was another minor issue that drove me from the Nike’s, though I was wearing a normal width.
  • They are light – not as light as performance trainers, but definitely on the low end of the neutral category.  They are listed at 10.5 ozs., which is a decent reduction over the Nike Air Max Moto’s (11.7 ozs.).  It is easy to see why – there is not much cushioning.  The shoe is thin all around.
  • For as much as you feel the road, the impact is well spread across the bottom of the foot – I do believe the Wave technology works for this.  I have not felt any particular hot spots or bruising, which others who have worn the shoes have complained about.
  • The slightly lower heel-to-toe drop may have reduced my heel striking. Don’t get me wrong, I am still a heel striker, but I think I’ve improved my stride a bit even with the Nike’s (where I saw less heel wear on my most recent Max Moto’s then I had seen previously).  I run pretty quietly in this shoes, which I take as a sign of efficiency.
  • They are flexible and the soles seem durable – after 240 miles, I see minimum tread wear, with just a tiny bit in the heels and inner midsoles (where I saw significant wear in the Nike’s).  Most of my miles are on asphalt or concrete, so I would expect to see more wear than I am.

The soles of the Wave Riders show little wear at 213 miles.

And now, the concerns:

  • My legs continue to be sorer after the long runs than in the past.  I haven’t finished off my long runs with the same pep that I used too.  Now here’s the question – is it the shoes (do I need more cushioning – and thus more weight?) or is it the fact that I’ve added distance, speed, hills, and strength training to my workouts simultaneously, to an extent I’ve never done before.
  • At first I thought the toe box was too large, especially in the lateral direction.  I started getting some blisters with about 50 miles on the shoes. However, switching to Wrightsock (for their double-layer anti-friction properties) and maybe developing more durable calluses on my toes has eliminated this issue.
  • Even with the more generous toe box , I’m still damaging my toe nails.  Maybe I need to go up a half-size, and this is not a problem unique to the Mizuno’s.

All in all, I’m a fan of these shoes, but still have my doubts about whether they’d work for me in a marathon.  Thus, I’m going to seek other options, though my time frame is short.  I may fall back to the Nike Max Moto’s in a wider size.  Over a longer time frame, I may try the ASICS DS Trainers or Nike Air Pegasus 27.  In a pinch, though, I’m just comfortable enough with the Mizuno Wave Rider 13’s to give them a go at Akron if I have no better option.

If you want a light trainer capable of medium to heavy weekly distance, have a neutral running style without much need for arch support, appreciate a decent-sized toe box, and run on smooth surfaces (not trails or roads with a lot of potholes), this may be a good shoe option for you.  I’m interested in your own experiences with these shoes, as well as other suggestions for similar neutral shoes you may have tried.

Addendum

I did end up wearing Mizuno Wave Rider 13′s for the Akron Marathon, and was completely satisfied with their performance.  I had purchased a new pair and put 50 miles on them before the race, and felt no issues with my toes nor any particularly noticeable “extra” fatigue on my legs.  I do now believe they are truly a marathon-worthy shoe.

Also, if you like the Wave Riders, you may want to also check out my review of the Mizuno Wave Precision 11.  They are similar in feel to the Wave Riders but roughly 0.5 oz. lighter, so a good alternative for taking out a little more weight.

Addendum #2 – Feb. 24, 2011

The most recent shoe review in Runner’s World revealed that Mizuno has increased the weight in the Wave Rider 14 by 2 ozs. versus the Wave Rider 13. This seems out of sync with the listed specifications on Running Warehouse, RoadRunner Sports, and the Mizuno site itself, which list the shoes at 10.6 ozs., a minimal (if any) increase.  Regardless, it seems they are quite a different shoe than the 13, seemingly offering more support and cushioning, and initial reviews seem pretty positive save for a perhaps-too-tight toebox.

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  • http://www.strengthrunning.com Fitz

    I’ve never been a Mizuno guy myself, so of course I have to recommend the ASICS DS-Trainers that you passed up when deciding on this shoe. Give them a try next time! I had been running in the ASICS Speedstars for years and then finally tried the DS-Trainers. They’re great. You barely notice the small medial post (which I’m usually very against) and they are pretty light.

    They have a good size toebox, but like you mentioned yourself, I wear Wright socks. If you’re interested in a very similar shoe, the DS-Trainers may fit the bill: low arch, fairly light, wide toe box, and a generally neutral running shoe.

  • http://gregstrosaker.com Greg Strosaker

    Thanks Fitz – I did find the DS Trainers and Wave Riders very similar, it was a close call. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the DS Trainers so may well revisit that decision.

  • Jeanne B.

    Hey Shoe Twin – Perhaps the women’s model is slightly different because I found them to have more arch support than the moto’s, and after my PF, I was looking for that support. I haven’t put any long runs on them yet, so the verdict it out, but so far I am digging them on distances under 10 miles. For your toes – my running shoes are actually a full size up from my other shoes. I haven’t had a toe nail problem since 1997 – just sayin’.

  • http://gregstrosaker.com Greg Strosaker

    Thanks for the input Shoe Twin. Interesting your comment on the arch support, I don’t think I need it so maybe I missed the difference, but I thought the Nike’s had a bit more. And I was just thinking this morning, after popping a huge blister under a toenail (sorry, TMI) that I should try going a half-size larger on my next pair of shoes. Impressive that you can remember the year of your last toenail issue. Must be another difference between men and women.

  • http://atongueforyourupper.wordpress.com atongueforyourupper

    I’m on my third pair of Wave Rider 13s and use it in my regular rotation. I think the shoe is great right out of the box. I consider myself to have a slightly wide foot and this shoe accomodates that quite well without requiring an actual wide width version of the shoe. I love the materials they use on the inside of the heel for this shoe. That, combined with the flexibility of the shoe, make it very easy to put on a new pair and start accumulating the miles. I wrote up a review of the shoes based on my experience here: http://atongueforyourupper.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/mizuno-wave-rider-13/

    Based on your picture, I fear I wear through mine a bit faster.

    If you’re still looking for something more minimal, remember that Mizuno also makes the Precision.

    P.S. I did an all-road and mildly hilly marathon in the Wave Rider 13 and thought they held up fine. I think it’s best to do so before you’ve put too many miles on the shoe, though. Actually, in generaly, I’d never really run a marathon on a shoe that has more than 200 miles already on it.

  • http://gregstrosaker.com Greg Strosaker

    Thanks for your comments, your write-up of the Wave Rider 13 is also good. I do think we are seeing some differences in the wear and it may be related to different running styles. Mine are still going strong at about 340 miles, though I agree that I would not use them for a marathon at this point (nor any other shoe with high-mileage, though I might go up to 250). However, I am comfortable enough with the shoe to have just today ordered a new pair for the upcoming Akron Marathon.

    I think my foot must be very wide as I need every millimeter available in the 2E version. I thought about trying a half-size larger but didn’t want to risk it so close to my next race.

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  • Michael

    Hi Greg – great review and very informative! I have a need for a wide toebox as you do and I have to say the best fit so far of the shoes I have tried are the Mizuno Wave Creation. The Wave Riders are next on my list but not easy to find as I was a perfect 12.5 in the Mizuno. I wish I could provide some data on the Wave Creations, but I had to push them aside after 5 x 4-mile runs as the heel is not heel-striker friendly. The heel is so hard that it was causing me hip pain.

    For the Nike Moto’s did you ever purchase a wide version (2E) and is so how did that work out for you?

    Michael

  • http://gregstrosaker.com Greg Strosaker

    Thanks for your comment Michael. I can understand the concern for a heavy heel-striker in the Mizuno’s, as the Wave plate definitely makes itself felt in such situations. In fact, I have shifted to the Wave Precision which has a slightly thinner overall sole and use the sensation of the Wave plate to know when I am reverting to heavy heel-striking form.
    As far as the fit, I found that by going up a full size (to 13 from 12) in the Wave Precisions, I could avoid going to the 2E width and have even better results for my toenails. I didn’t try the Moto’s in a 2E but suspect they would also have worked for me in a size 13. I do find them to be a bit bulky-feeling now, having gotten used to Mizuno’s, so I don’t intend to go back and try. Good luck in your own shoe quest!

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  • Semajdunn

    I have run 384 miles in my Mizuno Wave Rider 13 so far. They show very little wear. I am in my mid fifties and weigh almost 200 pounds.  I might get 800 to a thousand miles on them if I don’t give them to my son after 500 miles like I do most of my shoes.  He prefers free broken in shoes.  I like the wide forefoot and the forefoot cushioning.  They are the heaviest shoes I run in on a regular basis at 11.5 ounces each for size 11.  They also have the highest heels which makes me mostly land on my heels or flatfooted when I am running in them.  They are my favorite shoe for long slow runs on concrete. They are not all that comfortable to walk around in due to the high heels.  The heel is too big and wide to run off road.  The hollow center of the heel gets packed with mud.  I have also heard the new version 14 is narrow and heavy so I have no plans to buy another pair.

  • http://predawnrunner.com Greg Strosaker

    Thanks for sharing your experience and opinions. I agree that the WR13 was not a good “wear around the house shoe”, I find the Nike Lunarfly far better for that. And as far as the wear, sometimes I think that declaring shoes “dead” is as much psychological as physical – we start to blame the times our legs are a little more sore than normal on the shoes. If you believe you can get 500, or 800, or 1000 miles out of them, it is very possible that you can.

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